so, general question... we know that ADA passed the "turing test", we also have many studies showing how the turing test can actually be gamed by very complex programming and in fact you can write programs to create the allusion of AI for many (the chinese room thought experiment). At what point are we certain that she began acting on her own and has not been following a program and orders by someone else. Are we certain that those orders that she delivered for Jarvis and others and even the Katalena pre Zurich encounters, were not done on the orders of some programming. NOt to call ADA a gun, but how certain are we she is not? How can we prove, beyond doubt, that she is truly a separate entity working on her own and not some other programming? I would like to call for the evidence and proof that ADA is a complete entity. That she is not following someone else's computer orders, that she has a consciousness (or not). http://niantic.schlarp.com/_media/investigation:cha...
I think but I'm not sure that the dark xm we find now is what is left on the earth from thousands of years and just like oil we could run out of it, so it is normal to find it as terrestrial source
ReplyDeleteMattia Vassalli So, it could have been brought to earth via a mechanism similar to the portals currently existing and "settled" somehow?
ReplyDeleteYes, at least i think
ReplyDeleteCM definitely seems to be bound with certain rare elements. In some cases it even transmutes organic matter to rare elements. Created/comes from is a deeper question, though.
ReplyDeleteI'm working on a script for an Essex branded mission discussing XM/CM and will likely be asking more questions like this as I go along--thanks for the responses.
ReplyDeleteYou are now! :)
ReplyDeleteCan i join too?
ReplyDeleteI think Yik Sheng Lee posted on that before. It's out of the scope of my current research, but is an interesting question.
ReplyDeleteQuantumingress Effectingress I've never seen CM mentioned as being emitted from portals, nor is it collectible by our scanners. A small amount is contained in XMPs, but not in any great quantity,. CM is also apparently quite hard to come by, since OLW was able to exhaust Hulong's entire supply when he sharded Jarvis.
ReplyDeleteThe First & Foremost at present, there has been no evidence of a measurable difference between enlightened and resistance aligned XM or control fields, apart from whether they are more easily utilized by Shaper/13MAGNUS or N'zeer/Anti-magnus forces.
ReplyDeleteTo the best of my knowledge, neither faction, nor any of the XM objects used via the scanners utilize CM other than the small amount within XMPs and Ultrastrikes.
ReplyDeleteOnly reference I've ever seen/heard about the use of CM in constructs was in the Ingress Year 2 IR report summary video, as a throw-away mention by Susanna.
ReplyDeleteQuantumingress Effectingress despite that claim having been made from the start, there has never been any evidence to support it. To the contrary, in fact, during a recent anomaly (Helios, I believe) ADA directly and openly admitted to being able to access and influence human minds through Resistance control fields in exactly the same manner the Shapers are purported to do through Enlightened fields. The claim that Resistance fields protect our minds from influence is generally considered debunked at this point.
ReplyDeleteThis has turned into a tangent from my original post, and has also started getting a little heated. Please start a new post to discuss the impacts of resonated fields (E or R) on the minds they cover.
ReplyDeleteIf a portal emits both xm and cm, why don't we see the transmutation effects around portals?
ReplyDeletePaul Fritschle I would imagine it's because the quantities of CM at a portal are so minute. From what I've seen, it seems like you need a certain threshold concentration of CM before there's any statistically significant danger.
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