so, general question... we know that ADA passed the "turing test", we also have many studies showing how the turing test can actually be gamed by very complex programming and in fact you can write programs to create the allusion of AI for many (the chinese room thought experiment). At what point are we certain that she began acting on her own and has not been following a program and orders by someone else. Are we certain that those orders that she delivered for Jarvis and others and even the Katalena pre Zurich encounters, were not done on the orders of some programming. NOt to call ADA a gun, but how certain are we she is not? How can we prove, beyond doubt, that she is truly a separate entity working on her own and not some other programming? I would like to call for the evidence and proof that ADA is a complete entity. That she is not following someone else's computer orders, that she has a consciousness (or not). http://niantic.schlarp.com/_media/investigation:cha...
Nice work
ReplyDeleteI have my doubts about the horizontal reflection, the example could be vertical too, and in that case the remember and embrace could be inverted because you could use middle point reflection...
ReplyDeleteI´m not above admitting a mistake. +Jaime is right about the example. I will correct it and use another one.
ReplyDeleteAndreas Decker maybe the episode MYSTERY could be interesting for you too.
ReplyDeletehttps://plus.google.com/105838193018678917660/posts/XZkXUkzhfPt
What #mystery is showing is that rhe axe of symmetries does not have to be lying centered. Nice works Achim S. and Andreas Decker.
ReplyDeleteThis aligns perfectly to my last ideas on these pictures of the techulu.
Achim S. Interesting points are made there. Let me ponder on this for a while.
ReplyDeleteAndreas Decker the duality that we can see in some glyphs is really fascinating.
ReplyDeleteThere are some episodes posts that are published to this objective's study.
What is really intriguing is the pattern of duality we can see in the glyphs and in the techthulu poem.
and the ADA "i am home" video
ReplyDeleteThere is much you can say about a group of people studying their language. The same way you can tell "ICE" is really important from Skimos from the fact that they have 100 words for differente tones of white and blue it should be possible to analize Shapers psicology by their language. Is there any work about this so far?
ReplyDeleteJuan Pedro Peralta It's a good idea, but it's difficult to do an ethnolinguistic analysis with so little language data to work with. We're probably not looking at the Shapers' "real language," but rather a simplified form created to communicate with us -- a visual pidgin, if you will.
ReplyDeleteFully-realized Shaper glyphing probably has features we haven't even seen yet, such as grammatical classifiers. Trying to derive cultural insights from the limited glyph set would be like trying to predict human culture based on Morse Code.
That said, I will point one really unusual thing about Shaper glyph-language: It appears to be a logographic system whose non-compound forms make minimal references to material culture. That's weird. Human logographic systems (such as Egyptian hieroglyphs or Chinese) usually start with base symbols for physical things (tree, water, house, etc.), adding compound or classified forms for immaterial concepts. If the base Shaper glyphs lack reference to material existence (and that's a big "if"), the three most logical hypotheses are:
1) Glyphs aren't even close to the real Shaper language, instead being a interlingual tool created just to communicate with other species.
2) Shaper brains are wired very differently than ours.
3) Shapers don't have a material existence to reference.
I'll let you decide which of these hypotheses is most troubling.
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