Dear fellow researchers
Dear fellow researchers,
I noticed that Andreas Decker shared his research about glyphs and their antonyms.
His core theory is: If we wanna find out the antonyms of a specific glyph, just find out its Axisymmetric image
or Centrosymmetric image.
I think the theory is imperfect.
Example A:
PERFECTION (also known as BALANCE) and IMPERFECT
They are a pair of antonyms, but they are not axisymmetric or centrosymmetric, so we can
get a conclusion:
Axisymmetric or centrosymmetric are not the necessary conditions here.
Example B:
ADAPT and SAVE
They are a pair of axisymmetric image by the vertical axis, but they are not a pair of antonyms, so we can get a conclusion:
Axisymmetric or centrosymmetric are not the sufficient conditions here.
Example C:
The "REMEMBER" and "EMBRACE"
Andreas Decker said REMEMBER and EMBRACE is the axisymmetric image of FORGET and IGNORE by the horizontal axis.
So why not change them, REMEMBER and EMBRACE is the centrosymmetric image of FORGET and IGNORE?
Your cycle theory said, “Forget-Ignore-Remember-Embrace” is a cycle, so it fits the counterclockwise now.
We can't even confirm which is REMEMBER and which is EMBRACE.
So, I think we can't hastily concur this theory, until we get more intels.
Stein Lightman Edgar Allan Wright
https://plus.google.com/+thedeacon1972/posts/AYfVwWmLdnm
I noticed that Andreas Decker shared his research about glyphs and their antonyms.
His core theory is: If we wanna find out the antonyms of a specific glyph, just find out its Axisymmetric image
or Centrosymmetric image.
I think the theory is imperfect.
Example A:
PERFECTION (also known as BALANCE) and IMPERFECT
They are a pair of antonyms, but they are not axisymmetric or centrosymmetric, so we can
get a conclusion:
Axisymmetric or centrosymmetric are not the necessary conditions here.
Example B:
ADAPT and SAVE
They are a pair of axisymmetric image by the vertical axis, but they are not a pair of antonyms, so we can get a conclusion:
Axisymmetric or centrosymmetric are not the sufficient conditions here.
Example C:
The "REMEMBER" and "EMBRACE"
Andreas Decker said REMEMBER and EMBRACE is the axisymmetric image of FORGET and IGNORE by the horizontal axis.
So why not change them, REMEMBER and EMBRACE is the centrosymmetric image of FORGET and IGNORE?
Your cycle theory said, “Forget-Ignore-Remember-Embrace” is a cycle, so it fits the counterclockwise now.
We can't even confirm which is REMEMBER and which is EMBRACE.
So, I think we can't hastily concur this theory, until we get more intels.
Stein Lightman Edgar Allan Wright
https://plus.google.com/+thedeacon1972/posts/AYfVwWmLdnm
Thank you, Lysine Liu, for your critique on my paper on glyphs and their unknown antonyms. This is the way serious science should be.
ReplyDeleteLet me state a well-known scientific quote first: A theory can not be proven or confirmed, only falsified. Of course, there may be intel in the future which may prove my theory wrong. That´s the way many a good theory has gone before, why shouldn´t mine? We will wait and see ...
Considering your example A, I have an objection: While I use glyphs with multiple meanings (see "Create/Creation" for example) I do so when they mean (nearly) the same. "Perfection/Balance" does not really fit here. Something can be balanced and not be perfect (Balance of Terror between Nato and Warsaw pact) and vice versa. Therefore I doubt whether this example can actually disprove my theory
Your example B can actually be understood as a pair of antonyms. To adapt means to change according to the circumstances. "Save" is one of the most used words in English. In this case it could also mean to save yourself and stay what you are. Also I stated in my paper that a vertical axisymetric may not only be used to construct the antonym (see Forget/Ignore). Research on this other use is going forward, but has not reached a point where there would be anything worth publishing.
Example C is correct in so far as it may be possible that centrosymetric mirroring or axisymetric mirroring by a horizontal axis is used. The meaning of my proposed glyphs would be reversed. This does not disprove my theory however , because one of three possible methods for constructing an antonym has been used anyhow. I believe my statement to be correct, because according to Occams Razor, things should be kept as simple as possible. As an axisymetric mirroring is easier to perform as a centrosymetric mirroring, I stay by my words but wouldn´t be surprised if it were otherwise.
I seriously encourage everybody to not just believe my words, but do the research for yourself. In science, nothing should be considered "holy" or "untouchable". Again, thank you, Lysine Liu for your critique. Best regards, thedeacon1972
Other connected thought of mine is the supersymetry which is connected to the beginning of all things. Out of that grows this endless circle (symmetric in every way ...super...) of life... build and destruct come and go (also symetrics) birth and death. Fight of good and evil rich and poor. Thats what its all about. Symetrics .. including all shades of between to be honnest.
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The niantic symbol is symetric as well. If we see it as a 4dimensional tetraeder it is a line in every dimension which would be symmetric in every way as well.
ReplyDeleteSo if we turn around dimensions it also says time is symetric and we can turn past to future and the other way round. What gives me the picture of repeating events. A circle of time. So i am at the circle again.
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The faces i see in all of niantic project assimilated media... i believe them to be kodama (e?). Not all of them but most. Kodamae are some kind of japanese tree ghosts. But go into Google/ Wikipedia yourself.
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Those tree ghost.. we are asking for our roots what made people talk about the tree of life.
ReplyDeleteBut how can we make that tree to something like a circle? I found a way to
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Thanks to Achim S. At this point.
ReplyDeleteI had seen this before. And not only one time...
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I put spirit in because the eye is placed where the heart is and kodamae are spirits too.
ReplyDeleteThe pentagram inside is 2dimensional projection of 4-dimensional tetraeder by the way.
So i have the cycle of life spirits connected dimensions kodamae and everything around niantic. Then i saw this on every portal. Wonder why i had not seen this much earlier...
ReplyDeleteI checked it. The higher level a portal has.. the bigger are the kodamae Who are placed around it.
Looking like a lot of openalls around one portal Achim S. Andreas Decker
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So that is my question... Edgar Allan Wright: What is the niantic project... and what is it all about?
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Andreas Decker
ReplyDeleteI‘m glad you are going to make this discussion becomes scientific.
And I stilI insist on my point of view, 'cos you could not convince me.
First of all, simple is beautiful.
In the reply you gave me, you mentioned Occam razor. So I think I do not need to explain this concept.
My opinion is "Axisymmetric image or Centrosymmetric image are not always the antonyms of the Glyph.", without any prerequisites
And your theory is "If we wanna find out the antonyms of a specific glyph, just find out its Axisymmetric image
or Centrosymmetric image.", exclude multi-meaning glyphs, and have to add some interpretations of glyph meanings( adapt -> change ).
According to this Razor, mine is better than yours, until more evidence proves that mine is wrong.
(By the way, change-save is also not fit with your theory either.)
Secondly, there are more examples than those above.
For examples type A:
begin-end
complex-simple
conflict-peace
danger-safety
difficult-easy
discover-hide
follow-rebel
harm-repair
strong-weak
together-separate
truth-lie
restraint-unbounded
For examples type B:
abandon-restraint
equal-now
I-you
pursue-want
them-us
I can't remember more examples but I think these pairs are enough to show the fact that my examples are not solitary case. It's ubiquitous.
Last but not least, I‘m not mean to criticize anyone, but I think, If a theory of Glyph-relationship can stand the test of time and the question of others, It will be beneficial to all agents. Best regards from Lysineliu.
Yes the correct answer is there is possible but not certain the reflection conduct to an antonymous.
ReplyDeleteOther examples probe it.
But we should considerate that our antonymous and translate them is not ever possible.
As an example the phrases in the communication suggest forget ideas of past present and future, if in a way they could voyage across the time they have obsolete glyphs...
There is only a simplified set of concepts?