Perfect example of creative thought and technology:...
Perfect example of creative thought and technology: http://www.space.com/32604-ancient-peruvian-mystery-solved-from-space.html
http://www.space.com/32604-ancient-peruvian-mystery-solved-from-space.html
http://www.space.com/32604-ancient-peruvian-mystery-solved-from-space.html
Creativity and science.... Vesuvian Magnus.
ReplyDeleteXM induced creativity. A spike in technological know-how. Amazing.
ReplyDeleteThis would be more related to the N'Zeer than the Shapers. Remember the N'Zeer are all about technology and the Shapers are more about spiritual and mental enlightenment... The Nazca lines, more abstract, would be more likely related to the Shapers.
ReplyDeletePerhaps in the past they worked together and had a falling out?
ReplyDeleteOr the influence of the Shaper faded some time in the past and those of the Nzeer rose. And vice versa.
ReplyDeleteI like that angle, Heidi!
ReplyDeleteIf you subscribe to the theory that J. Michael Straczynski is a significant sensitive, and the Shapers / N'zeer can be analogized to the Vorlons / Shadows, then we'd expect that at some point in the past they had been partners in shepherding other species through advancement from sub-sapience to full citizenship in interstellar culture; but at some point their ideological differences led them to try to use younger races as pawns, to prove points about how their way was better; and then to start actually sabotaging and destroying races that were trending towards doing things the "wrong" way.
ReplyDeleteAuros Harman I like your theory that the old species in the B5 universe may be the same as the Shapers/Nzeer. But what about XM?
ReplyDeleteWell, not every element of the story has to match perfectly. We just postulate that JMS was influenced by XM, imbuing him with the general shape of the relationships between Shapers, N'zeer, and humanity.
ReplyDeleteAuros Harman I like the idea of the "elder" races who leave the known universe for the "younger" races. In the german scifi novella "Perry Rhodan" is something equivalent: A race can become a higher beeing by "spiritualizing" themselves and the souls are combined to multidimensional beeing. This could be a way to become "one with the ultimate", a "water" where single minds are "waves".
ReplyDeleteIf you read through David Brin's Uplift Saga, there's a somewhat similar concept in play, though it's a bit hard to explain in just a few sentences... His story is less spiritual though -- the advanced beings have simply retreated into an existence that conceals them from the younger races, while leaving them with a technological infrastructure that helps maintain a stable culture and prevent a total war of all against all (which could be catastrophic for the supply of life-supporting planets), over tens of thousands of years, even as the constituent species taking part in the galactic culture change, each one uplifting successors in order to gain prestige, and eventually receding into "retirement" (which may mean extinction -- in some cases voluntary, others not -- or adoption into the class of "ascended" beings).
ReplyDeleteThere are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Hamlet
ReplyDelete- Most don't realize we are more than four dimensional (3 spatial, 1 temporal) beings. All of the advanced physical theories hint that there are at least double that many. It makes sense that we would interact at least subliminally with them. Beings with more interactions would seem god-like...
Point was meant to be: XM and creative thought seem to interact on that level - Chicken and egg style.
The interesting thing is if these aqueducts had a purpose, maybe the Nazca lines did too... And according to ancient astronaut theorists, they were used to signal an ancient race of flesh and blood extraterrestrials. :D
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