The difference is defined by the ones who own power and influence. (ethic aspect of the question left aside because of lack of relevance). Truth hurts.
In a word ownership. The 6emini is correct those with power define "ownership".... " If I were asked to answer the following question: What is slavery? and I should answer in one word, It is murder!, my meaning would be understood at once. No extended argument would be required to show that the power to remove a man's mind, will, and personality, is the power of life and death, and that it makes a man a slave. It is murder. Why, then, to this other question: What is property? may I not likewise answer, It is robbery!, without the certainty of being misunderstood; the second proposition being no other than a transformation of the first?
Essex members as you are aware essex and our member Lukas Lentz credibility , were attacked by the Global Data Analysis Group. It is in our interest to show our unity as independent researchers now more than ever. Today earlier a post was made with me ( Hugo Neves ) as it's writer in order to make sure we had a fast reply out there. It is in our interest that we show our unity by signing our names to one post . The question I make is do we use the same post or a new one for this Also please today try and make posts or sign in the main Niantic one with the following hashtag #TrustLukas To show support for our colleague Lukas Lentz https://plus.google.com/101577681173166935630/posts/XxjSGChLb5x
I am beginning to catalogue a list of Transdimensional Objects which appear to be inert artifacts, but, in fact, have actual technological capabilities when exposed to XM or present in a Nest. Let us start with the Shōnin Stone (which I believe to be broken at this point). We know that it functions as something analogous to part of a circuit board or a key, depending on how you perceive it. There is also Azmati's Dagger (or is it Alexander the Greats, I can't remember) that was used to test for simulacra. My feeling is that there are more such objects. I am trying to catalogue them. And as a thought experiment, what other objects must there be that have not yet been found?
so, general question... we know that ADA passed the "turing test", we also have many studies showing how the turing test can actually be gamed by very complex programming and in fact you can write programs to create the allusion of AI for many (the chinese room thought experiment). At what point are we certain that she began acting on her own and has not been following a program and orders by someone else. Are we certain that those orders that she delivered for Jarvis and others and even the Katalena pre Zurich encounters, were not done on the orders of some programming. NOt to call ADA a gun, but how certain are we she is not? How can we prove, beyond doubt, that she is truly a separate entity working on her own and not some other programming? I would like to call for the evidence and proof that ADA is a complete entity. That she is not following someone else's computer orders, that she has a consciousness (or not). http://niantic.schlarp.com/_media/investigation:cha...
Motivation. Greed or Survival.
ReplyDeleteOwnership: if it's under the effective control of a person, if the object is taken, the taker is a thief, otherwise that person is a hunter.
ReplyDeleteThe difference is defined by the ones who own power and influence. (ethic aspect of the question left aside because of lack of relevance). Truth hurts.
ReplyDeleteThe value of what is taken.
ReplyDeleteIf you steal a loaf of bread you're a thief. If you steal a country you're a king.
If you kill something "less than" a person you're a hunter. If you kill a person, you're a (depending upon who you kill):
Murderer.
Hero.
Hazel Vizion a hunter takes a life. Does that belong to him?
ReplyDeleteLmfao egg or chicken.
ReplyDeleteIn a word ownership. The 6emini is correct those with power define "ownership".... " If I were asked to answer the following question: What is slavery? and I should answer in one word, It is murder!, my meaning would be understood at once. No extended argument would be required to show that the power to remove a man's mind, will, and personality, is the power of life and death, and that it makes a man a slave. It is murder. Why, then, to this other question: What is property? may I not likewise answer, It is robbery!, without the certainty of being misunderstood; the second proposition being no other than a transformation of the first?
ReplyDelete— Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
When we scold our cat for stealing food from the table, we often laugh at the idea of him answering "But I don't believe in prooopeeerty".
ReplyDeleteFor him it really is hunting.
Theft is to deprive one of property. Hunting is to deprive one of life...the cat is scavenging not hunting.
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ReplyDeleteWhen life is a pattern you can create at will. There is neither hunting nor theft. The eithics of it are what separates Shapers from N'zeer.
ReplyDeleteThey are one and the same...
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