so, general question... we know that ADA passed the "turing test", we also have many studies showing how the turing test can actually be gamed by very complex programming and in fact you can write programs to create the allusion of AI for many (the chinese room thought experiment). At what point are we certain that she began acting on her own and has not been following a program and orders by someone else. Are we certain that those orders that she delivered for Jarvis and others and even the Katalena pre Zurich encounters, were not done on the orders of some programming. NOt to call ADA a gun, but how certain are we she is not? How can we prove, beyond doubt, that she is truly a separate entity working on her own and not some other programming? I would like to call for the evidence and proof that ADA is a complete entity. That she is not following someone else's computer orders, that she has a consciousness (or not). http://niantic.schlarp.com/_media/investigation:cha...
Do we have a good idea of exactly what the mission and goal of 13magnus is? Why would ADA side with the N'Zeer?
ReplyDeleteWhen Hank Johnson first appeared his alignment wasn't determined until the Anomaly outcome at Cahokia Mound. That said, if Hank is truly a free agent unaligned to any faction, then he is free to broker relationships between the conflicting parties and re-establish a stable balance. The N'zeer, Shapers and other out-there entities probably know they can't eliminate the other because they're locked in an interdependent relationship.
ReplyDeleteThey don't necessarily like each other but will need to find a way to co-exist and satisfy their ego/ambition at the same time.
The Darsana Point, perhaps is a realization that the RES and ENL need each other - and need to rely on each others resources to further their interests. It may culminate in a situation where opppsing factions end up protecting and maintaining each other's portals instead of being locked into the destructive cycle of attrition.
Out there now, you've got ENL not destroying, and infact preserving RES Level 8 portal clusters and vice versa. Profound change in the landscape. Maybe this Anomaly should be perpetuated where Agents will need to hack portals of opposing polarity for critical resources.
IF Calvin is Antimagnus he must have known about 13Magnus and needed some way to expose them since he needed to hide the fact that he is Antimagnus. Hank was the perfect instrument for that. By sending Hank on his adventure Calvin could have predicted the outcome that Hank will disseminate his findings and set in motion a set of events leading up to the Niantic Project and thus the N'zeer
ReplyDeleteQuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect That is an interesting reading of it. I don't entirely disagree - you may be correct that Calvin "wasn't Anti-Magnus" or didn't think of himself as AM. The line I focus on here is when Azmati says "When did you figure it out?" - To me that means that Azmati believe Calvin is AM in his heart or soul even if he doesn't yet grasp it. She then goes on to say that she was figured "herself" out early on. The question is, was Calvin's ideology aligned to AM all along and he didn't realize it until later?
ReplyDeleteI think you are suggesting that his comments after that ("The Age of the N'Zeer is upon us" and "Order. Clarity. Truth.") may just be either jesting with her or misdirection. I'm not sure one way or the other.
Do you think H. Richard Loeb was wrong in his evaluation of Calvin? See his post here: https://plus.google.com/+HRichardLoeb/posts/9cmDPcMWTBw
I think we need more evidence of Calvin's actions between Darsana and Shonin (Q1 2015).