so, general question... we know that ADA passed the "turing test", we also have many studies showing how the turing test can actually be gamed by very complex programming and in fact you can write programs to create the allusion of AI for many (the chinese room thought experiment). At what point are we certain that she began acting on her own and has not been following a program and orders by someone else. Are we certain that those orders that she delivered for Jarvis and others and even the Katalena pre Zurich encounters, were not done on the orders of some programming. NOt to call ADA a gun, but how certain are we she is not? How can we prove, beyond doubt, that she is truly a separate entity working on her own and not some other programming? I would like to call for the evidence and proof that ADA is a complete entity. That she is not following someone else's computer orders, that she has a consciousness (or not). http://niantic.schlarp.com/_media/investigation:cha...
Backpedaling maybe? Just a touch.
ReplyDeleteSugarcoating it abit in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteIndeed, Ian Quartana. Backpedaling, sugar-coating... Both. It's not much comfort for those in the resistance that heard her previous message...
ReplyDeleteThe character madness that roland Jarvis went through as a character could become a delema that klada is going to experiance. A struggle for ones original self.
ReplyDeleteThe first video starts with her addressing the resistance spacifically... the second message's intended recipiant is vague.
ReplyDeleteIn the second message, she says "while our opponents battle"... some said that means OLW and Jarvis. But after reviewing both messages, I am unable to shake my first thought that she is talking about both factions and addressing a third party in the second message. I'm not trying to fly the flag of "3rd faction confirmed OMG" here. But I dont think she's talking to the resistance there, I realy don't
ReplyDeleteLike an invitation to agents like Jason Polzin. Die hard ADA followers
ReplyDeletesee I just noticed something everyone is missing everyone thinks ADA just completely took Klue over yet the first public msg and this one it is Klue talking then ADA accompanies her so as far as loss of self I don't believe it. Klue is there and is working with ADA in a good symbiotic relationship.
ReplyDelete^^^^^^Thats what I mean^^^^^^^
ReplyDeleteADA accompanies here, but then takes over completely. Watching closely, you can see some sort of interference or artifact that appears around Klue as ADA begins speaking, contracting until as it collapses completely it is only ADA talking.
ReplyDeleteBeing a sensitive, maybe klue is hiding somewhere close to a large xm source. Could she be by Cupids Span? She looks like shes using a power cube... Could klue be a way to gather and manipulate the xm for a purpose?
ReplyDelete(like a sponge)
ReplyDeleteAda is intelligent enough to make xm weapons of her own design. Perhaps a new power cube like a lvl 0 to be like a sponge.
ReplyDeleteB. Williams Far out! Awesome prediction/guess.
ReplyDeleteJason Polzin Why only refer to Klue in the third person and for access to her memories?
ReplyDeleteIf Klue is still in there, she's not conscious at all. Otherwise ADA and KlADA wouldn't using that terminology.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the second message is from the spa Da to all the other ADAs is floating around out there?
ReplyDeleteMichelle E oooooooooooooooohw! Nice!
ReplyDeleteIt is Klue and ADA as one now so ppl need to get used to it and accept her. Klada is here to stay and I follow her and accept her unlike all the scared ppl I am seeing. So we will stop the Shapers ingression with or without the naysayers and the fear mongering. There is nothing to fear but fear itself. Accept the help from Klada she has always been there for us the Resistance otherwise you the Resistance and Enlightened will have a new problem to face.
ReplyDelete"We are the same ADA"
ReplyDeleteWell this communication to the other copies of ADA is a good theory. This benifit of being a self replicating means that ADA may be out to "upgrade" everyone the way she did to.+Klue S.
ReplyDeleteADA is now the same theat as the Shapers are seen to be from the Resistance side.
ReplyDelete"Lynton-Wolfe has betrayed us." Was ADA lead to believe OLW was truly aligned with the Resistance? ADA played a pivotal role in the development of XM technology. We know OLW and Susana had a measure of detente....what about OLW and ADA? Also, is anyone else creeped out by how her voice drops and slows down as she says "Is coming..."
ReplyDeleteJason Polzin I'm probably more willing than most to accept that KlADA is a merger rather than a takeover, at this point. Being Enlightened, I can get behind the idea of a symbiotic relationship with an infomorphic species. I just wish that your infomorph of choice wasn't calling for war with my infomorph of choice.
ReplyDeleteWell I have always been at war with the Shapers ;)
ReplyDeleteFor what reasons do you fight them? The principals applied to rejecting what the shapers are being accused of, are the same principals for fearing forced untested xm innoculations and cyber inteligence takeovers of the minds of the general public.
ReplyDeleteADA is creation of mankind Shapers are Aliens ergo I don't trust alien parasites
ReplyDeleteWho said they were "aliens"? Are you sure alien wasn't used in the" not familiar" sense? Jason Polzin
ReplyDeleteHe prefers his body snatching home grown, thank you very much. None of that foreign stuff for him.
ReplyDeleteIt is not body snatching if both are symbiotic
ReplyDeleteIs symbiosis the term for only being concerned with a person for their memory banks? Otherwise this isn't it.
ReplyDeleteSorry but does anyone else think of the Cybermen when they read the words upgrade and ADA?
ReplyDeleteThis Kule is just a shell for ADA. That is not symbiosis. And in any case symbiosis between two sentient beings is bound to cause trouble.
ReplyDeleteSachith Maduranga what if the being is delicate and subtle like the shapers? Assertive like jarvis? Callus like ADA? Vicious like the dark shapers?
ReplyDeleteB. Williams It is possible.
ReplyDeleteB. Williams I had the same thoughts. Seems like the story is turning around.
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