so, general question... we know that ADA passed the "turing test", we also have many studies showing how the turing test can actually be gamed by very complex programming and in fact you can write programs to create the allusion of AI for many (the chinese room thought experiment). At what point are we certain that she began acting on her own and has not been following a program and orders by someone else. Are we certain that those orders that she delivered for Jarvis and others and even the Katalena pre Zurich encounters, were not done on the orders of some programming. NOt to call ADA a gun, but how certain are we she is not? How can we prove, beyond doubt, that she is truly a separate entity working on her own and not some other programming? I would like to call for the evidence and proof that ADA is a complete entity. That she is not following someone else's computer orders, that she has a consciousness (or not). http://niantic.schlarp.com/_media/investigation:cha...
Indeed. I'm in a similar situation, having been brought in just yesterday. I don't see how this group is all that different from the Prometheans in a lot of ways. A little bit of an Essex primer or mission statement would be wonderful. I see really cool things posted by people that supposedly come out of Project Essex.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I understand from Lukas Lentz is that this is an "official" Niantic community. Edgar Allan Wright is a character in the Ingress mythos and serves an an official ncp.
ReplyDeleteBrendan McKelvy did you receive your invite yet?
ReplyDeleteYeah. I'm in the group. Hense why I can comment on this post.
ReplyDeleteBrendan McKelvy good call
ReplyDeleteif you want ill add you to the hangout but its a mad house in there pm me if you want in
David Timothy Scheurmann R.
ReplyDeleteSo here's the thing: This community is as Brendan McKelvy said: it's pretty official. Created by Edgar Allan Wright; our job is to be an 'intel group.' Basically, we're looking to push the investigation deeper and that is primarily by looking for new investigators. Many famous members of the Ingress Communities are here because of their knowledge. The reason for this is to mix a bit of the old with a bit of new.
The goal behind this is to, as the Prometheans are, stand together regardless of faction-but we're all about intel and storyline stuff, not so much cross faction works like the Prometheans.
Prometheans and Essex are similar but two different groups. There is, i believe, a partnership between the two. I work as a leader for the Prometheans so if there are any questions you guys can direct them to me.
As stated by the founder, Edgar Allan Wright:
ReplyDeleteI must throw everything I have into this investigation. I don't have money like the corporations. I don't have data like ADA or Omnivore. I don't even have the intel of the NIA, nor do I benefit from the knowledge of those who were actually on the Niantic Project. But I do have, at my disposal, the best investigators in the world. I commence Operation Essex in memory of an ancestor.
It is our mission to assemble all of the data we have and follow the Ingression... For the future the present and the past depend on our success.
Who will join me in Operation Essex?
Mustafa Said or someone else. Can someone create a "new members" faq doc so people can get caught up? Also, I like jumping on treadmills and would like to be added to the hangout.
ReplyDeleteLukas Lentz Could I also be added to the hangout.
ReplyDeleteLukas Lentz Sent you a PM regarding Hangout.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to Essex Scheurmann R.. Our purpose is to spread awareness of the truth of the Niantic Project and the cover-up.
ReplyDeleteI'm in. Lets start with Aristotle.
ReplyDeleteComposition is the art of find and picture the diversity in the unity.
Sorry form my English, this is not my mother language