so, general question... we know that ADA passed the "turing test", we also have many studies showing how the turing test can actually be gamed by very complex programming and in fact you can write programs to create the allusion of AI for many (the chinese room thought experiment). At what point are we certain that she began acting on her own and has not been following a program and orders by someone else. Are we certain that those orders that she delivered for Jarvis and others and even the Katalena pre Zurich encounters, were not done on the orders of some programming. NOt to call ADA a gun, but how certain are we she is not? How can we prove, beyond doubt, that she is truly a separate entity working on her own and not some other programming? I would like to call for the evidence and proof that ADA is a complete entity. That she is not following someone else's computer orders, that she has a consciousness (or not). http://niantic.schlarp.com/_media/investigation:cha...
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ReplyDeletethanks Drew Dondero - a lot to think about - i still am curious about the aspect of digital transdimensional objects and if Turing used one and this passed along to Loeb curious to see how Edgar Allan Wright views this
ReplyDelete...is Edgar Allan Wright Truthseeker?
ReplyDeleteWhat is the Warratah project?
ReplyDeletesimulacrum, a very difficult philosophical problem. So much information and little meaning says Baudrillard.
ReplyDeleteThanks Drew Dondero.
ReplyDeleteIt's the object in the Niantic video that resulted in Devra being sharded after exposure which is interesting. Objects with that amount of power storage are highly controlled and I don't think Jahan was capable of handling or releasing that amount of XM despite that being the apparent working hypothesis. Agents seem to be able to move these shards with no harmful effects, but it is still cast in terms of competition in that the ENL and RES are not working together to channel the shards.
ReplyDeleteWhy would an XM of a certain "flavor" and intensity be capable of storage and then the odd significant release unless it relates to anti-matter or a black hole which could have been engineered at CERN as a black project? We have little actual documentation on how to activate the beacons and the rules of engagement on the Magnus conflict regarding Shapers and Na'zeer but Jahan could not have been doing it right. The inoculation of Devra with dark XM seems to offer an explanation in terms of her survivability after being split into 31 separate shards.
And one can't just flip some switches to turn on the LHC to produce exotic matter so equally Jahan's ability to then channel any significant XM of that intensity has to be questioned even when many agents were actively engaging portals if they were participating in the anomaly. I'm looking forward to accessing more ADA/Omnivore/Truthseeker data from ADA directly without any
Interesting discussions going on at Op:Essex. :)
ReplyDeleteRegarding the point of fragmentation/sharding of Devra and/or the Shonin Stone:
If Azmati used his dagger to break the Shonin Stone, creating the XM blast and thus top Jahan's ritual - what if Devra got somehow fused with the stone in the process?
Then putting Devra's shards together is identical to putting the Shonin Stone back together. She would become the Shonin Stone, just like Hank is the key to the Nest in Afghanistan.
JoJo Stratton, regarding the part about N'Zeer=cold/logic and Shapers=creative/love and bringing the two together inside humans (Devra/Hank) ... looking at the glyphs for Shapers and N'Zeer the Shaper glyph could be considered somewhat phallic in appearance, with the N'zeer glyph beeing a fitting counterpart ;)
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ReplyDeletePAC being a simulacrum would explain his odd behavior upon return. Maybe he was killed by a sniper after all.
ReplyDeleteOne would have to correctly interpret whether Devra was intentionally transported or whether two forms of XM came into contact such as matter and antimatter in attempting to keep the ritual from occurring..
ReplyDeleteThere's some reason to believe the somewhat specific and limited sharding is intentional and thus has motive based on an "imperfect" solution being sandboxed such as creating an augmented reality. This refers to the "klippot sharding" which recycles universes that don't meet shaper or other container standards for multi-dimensional participation.